PPPoE with Time Capsule

[Juan I. Cahis]

Dear friends:

Does Time Capsule support PPPoE?

My Internet wide band provider gives me PPPoE in an ADSL phone line,
but I have been unable to configure my just bought Time Capsule to use
it. Also, in the manual there is any hint related to this issue. Does
it work?

It is curious, because any D-Link (or similar) wireless router support
PPPoE.

Any hint?

Thanks in advance.


Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

[Gregory Weston]

Post by Juan I. Cahis
Does Time Capsule support PPPoE?
My Internet wide band provider gives me PPPoE in an ADSL phone line,
but I have been unable to configure my just bought Time Capsule to use
it. Also, in the manual there is any hint related to this issue. Does
it work?
It is curious, because any D-Link (or similar) wireless router support
PPPoE.
Any hint?

I'd be stunned if it doesn't given that the AirPort base stations have
supported it since before the TC came out.

I assume you configure the TC using AirPort Utility or something almost
identical to it. If I go to manual configuration and click the Internet
icon at the top of the window the content area shows a set of 4 tabs.
The first is labelled Internet Connection and the first control is a
popup menu named Connect Using: which has an item named PPPoE.

[Steve W. Jackson]

Post by Gregory Weston

Post by Juan I. Cahis
Does Time Capsule support PPPoE?
My Internet wide band provider gives me PPPoE in an ADSL phone line,
but I have been unable to configure my just bought Time Capsule to use
it. Also, in the manual there is any hint related to this issue. Does
it work?
It is curious, because any D-Link (or similar) wireless router support
PPPoE.
Any hint?

I'd be stunned if it doesn't given that the AirPort base stations have
supported it since before the TC came out.
I assume you configure the TC using AirPort Utility or something almost
identical to it. If I go to manual configuration and click the Internet
icon at the top of the window the content area shows a set of 4 tabs.
The first is labelled Internet Connection and the first control is a
popup menu named Connect Using: which has an item named PPPoE.

I don't have DSL, but I do have a Time Capsule recently purchased. In
checking its setup options, I notice a "Connect Using" setting where I
can choose between Ethernet and PPPoE. So I'm guessing this will
satisfy the OP's needs.

[Michelle Steiner]

Post by Gregory Weston
I'd be stunned if it doesn't given that the AirPort base stations
have supported it since before the TC came out.
I assume you configure the TC using AirPort Utility or something
almost identical to it. If I go to manual configuration and click the
Internet icon at the top of the window the content area shows a set
of 4 tabs. The first is labelled Internet Connection and the first
control is a popup menu named Connect Using: which has an item named
PPPoE.

Same thing with the Time Capsule. I just checked.

[Juan I. Cahis]

Dear friends, thanks a lot to all!!!

Maybe, I relied too much in the "automatic configuration" (or wizard)
mode, I will try the manual mode now.

Post by Gregory Weston

Post by Juan I. Cahis
Does Time Capsule support PPPoE?
My Internet wide band provider gives me PPPoE in an ADSL phone line,
but I have been unable to configure my just bought Time Capsule to use
it. Also, in the manual there is any hint related to this issue. Does
it work?
It is curious, because any D-Link (or similar) wireless router support
PPPoE.
Any hint?

I'd be stunned if it doesn't given that the AirPort base stations have
supported it since before the TC came out.
I assume you configure the TC using AirPort Utility or something almost
identical to it. If I go to manual configuration and click the Internet
icon at the top of the window the content area shows a set of 4 tabs.
The first is labelled Internet Connection and the first control is a
popup menu named Connect Using: which has an item named PPPoE.

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

[Michael Vilain]

Post by Juan I. Cahis
Does Time Capsule support PPPoE?
My Internet wide band provider gives me PPPoE in an ADSL phone line,
but I have been unable to configure my just bought Time Capsule to use
it. Also, in the manual there is any hint related to this issue. Does
it work?
It is curious, because any D-Link (or similar) wireless router support
PPPoE.
Any hint?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

Just a guess here, but I think PPPoE won't work with anything that
requires a continuous network presence, like your TimeCapsule. IMO,
PPPoE is a particularly lame way to offer network services, layered onto
the older dial-up model. Rather than upgrade their infrastructure to
offera router that just connects a network, you have to "login" to the
network from PPPoE.

You might try configuring the other part of your network to recognize
the device. Failing that, does the TimeCapsule work as a directly
attached device to your system rather than as network storage? You
could set it up that way instead--seems a waste since directly attached
Firewire 1GB drives are cheaper.

[Michelle Steiner]

IMO, PPPoE is a particularly lame way to offer network services,
layered onto the older dial-up model. Rather than upgrade their
infrastructure to offera router that just connects a network, you
have to "login" to the network from PPPoE.

When I first moved to Arizona, I had DSL from Qwest in the apartment.
It used PPoE, but the logon stuff was configured in the DSL "modem", and
once that was configured, there were no problems at all.

[Ian Gregory]

IMO, PPPoE is a particularly lame way to offer network services,
layered onto the older dial-up model.

Most people in the UK get their broadband over the phone network using
ADSL, which invariably uses PPP (I am getting about 13 Meg over ADSL2+).
Of course most people don't know they are using PPP because their router
handles that (speaking PPPoATM to equipment at the exchange) and they
connect to their router over Ethernet or 802.11. It is nothing like the
older dial-up model.

For a while (when I was the only person in the house) I swapped my
router for a Vigor PPPoE-PPPoATM bridge, which provided the most direct
possible connection between my iMac and my ISP. I set the iMac to
connect to my ISP using PPPoE and all the bridge had to do was translate
between Ethernet packets and ATM frames (it is a zero configuration
device).

Ian

[weedhopper]

Juan - this is what I meant.

Post by Ian Gregory

IMO, PPPoE is a particularly lame way to offer network services,
layered onto the older dial-up model.

Most people in the UK get their broadband over the phone network using
ADSL, which invariably uses PPP (I am getting about 13 Meg over ADSL2+).
Of course most people don't know they are using PPP because their router
handles that (speaking PPPoATM to equipment at the exchange) and they
connect to their router over Ethernet or 802.11. It is nothing like the
older dial-up model.
For a while (when I was the only person in the house) I swapped my
router for a Vigor PPPoE-PPPoATM bridge, which provided the most direct
possible connection between my iMac and my ISP. I set the iMac to
connect to my ISP using PPPoE and all the bridge had to do was translate
between Ethernet packets and ATM frames (it is a zero configuration
device).
Ian
--
Ian Gregory
http://www.zenatode.org.uk/ian/

[Bob Harris]

Post by Michael Vilain

Post by Juan I. Cahis
Does Time Capsule support PPPoE?
My Internet wide band provider gives me PPPoE in an ADSL phone line,
but I have been unable to configure my just bought Time Capsule to use
it. Also, in the manual there is any hint related to this issue. Does
it work?
It is curious, because any D-Link (or similar) wireless router support
PPPoE.
Any hint?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

Just a guess here, but I think PPPoE won't work with anything that
requires a continuous network presence, like your TimeCapsule. IMO,
PPPoE is a particularly lame way to offer network services, layered onto
the older dial-up model. Rather than upgrade their infrastructure to
offera router that just connects a network, you have to "login" to the
network from PPPoE.

I have a 802.11n Airport Extreme (the base on which TimeCapsule is
built). I have Verizon DSL which uses a PPPoE connection and it
is up and running 24/7 month after month. I am rarely
disconnected. The Airport Extreme automatically makes the PPPoE
connection to Verizon. The Airport Extreme never disconnects (it
is an option if you desire, but mine is configured for "Always
On").

I frequently phone home from work, coffee shops, when on vacation,
etc... I have Mac mini that I use as a home server which is what
I connect with. Just last week, my Wife was on a business trip
and she used her newer laptop to ssh into her older laptop (left
at home) in order to fetch some files she left behind.

My Mac mini reaches out to my Mom's iMac every night and backups
it up across the internet. Mom is 300 miles away, and also on a
PPPoE Verison DSL connection. Her connection is always up as
well. In her case an older 802.11g White Airport Extreme makes
the PPPoE connection.

So I do not know what you mean when you say "PPPoE won't work with
anything that requires a continuous network presence", because my
Macs and my Mom's Mac are present and accounted for 24/7 and
accessible at the drop of a hat.

Post by Michael Vilain
You might try configuring the other part of your network to recognize
the device. Failing that, does the TimeCapsule work as a directly
attached device to your system rather than as network storage? You
could set it up that way instead--seems a waste since directly attached
Firewire 1GB drives are cheaper.

I do not think he is concerned with the storage portion of Time
Capsule, or at least the original post does not mention any
storage related issues.

He is just asking if the router half of the Time Capsule supports
PPPoE, and it does. Or I should say, it supports connecting the
router half to the Internet Service Provider over PPPoE. The
systems at Home do *NOT* need PPPoE to talk to the Time Capsule,
nor do they need PPPoE to access the internet.

Bob Harris

[Lloyd Parsons]

Post by Bob Harris

Post by Michael Vilain

Post by Juan I. Cahis
Does Time Capsule support PPPoE?
My Internet wide band provider gives me PPPoE in an ADSL phone line,
but I have been unable to configure my just bought Time Capsule to use
it. Also, in the manual there is any hint related to this issue. Does
it work?
It is curious, because any D-Link (or similar) wireless router support
PPPoE.
Any hint?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

Just a guess here, but I think PPPoE won't work with anything that
requires a continuous network presence, like your TimeCapsule. IMO,
PPPoE is a particularly lame way to offer network services, layered onto
the older dial-up model. Rather than upgrade their infrastructure to
offera router that just connects a network, you have to "login" to the
network from PPPoE.

I have a 802.11n Airport Extreme (the base on which TimeCapsule is
built). I have Verizon DSL which uses a PPPoE connection and it
is up and running 24/7 month after month. I am rarely
disconnected. The Airport Extreme automatically makes the PPPoE
connection to Verizon. The Airport Extreme never disconnects (it
is an option if you desire, but mine is configured for "Always
On").
I frequently phone home from work, coffee shops, when on vacation,
etc... I have Mac mini that I use as a home server which is what
I connect with. Just last week, my Wife was on a business trip
and she used her newer laptop to ssh into her older laptop (left
at home) in order to fetch some files she left behind.
My Mac mini reaches out to my Mom's iMac every night and backups
it up across the internet. Mom is 300 miles away, and also on a
PPPoE Verison DSL connection. Her connection is always up as
well. In her case an older 802.11g White Airport Extreme makes
the PPPoE connection.
So I do not know what you mean when you say "PPPoE won't work with
anything that requires a continuous network presence", because my
Macs and my Mom's Mac are present and accounted for 24/7 and
accessible at the drop of a hat.

Post by Michael Vilain
You might try configuring the other part of your network to recognize
the device. Failing that, does the TimeCapsule work as a directly
attached device to your system rather than as network storage? You
could set it up that way instead--seems a waste since directly attached
Firewire 1GB drives are cheaper.

I do not think he is concerned with the storage portion of Time
Capsule, or at least the original post does not mention any
storage related issues.
He is just asking if the router half of the Time Capsule supports
PPPoE, and it does. Or I should say, it supports connecting the
router half to the Internet Service Provider over PPPoE. The
systems at Home do *NOT* need PPPoE to talk to the Time Capsule,
nor do they need PPPoE to access the internet.
Bob Harris

I'm surprised that your Verizon DSL works that way where you are at.

I'm on Verizon and the PPoE is handled by the DLS modem/router that they
provided (Westell). The Airport is in bridge mode that is hooked to it.

[Bob Harris]

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Post by Bob Harris

Post by Michael Vilain

Post by Juan I. Cahis
Does Time Capsule support PPPoE?
My Internet wide band provider gives me PPPoE in an ADSL phone line,
but I have been unable to configure my just bought Time Capsule to use
it. Also, in the manual there is any hint related to this issue. Does
it work?
It is curious, because any D-Link (or similar) wireless router support
PPPoE.
Any hint?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

Just a guess here, but I think PPPoE won't work with anything that
requires a continuous network presence, like your TimeCapsule. IMO,
PPPoE is a particularly lame way to offer network services, layered onto
the older dial-up model. Rather than upgrade their infrastructure to
offera router that just connects a network, you have to "login" to the
network from PPPoE.

I have a 802.11n Airport Extreme (the base on which TimeCapsule is
built). I have Verizon DSL which uses a PPPoE connection and it
is up and running 24/7 month after month. I am rarely
disconnected. The Airport Extreme automatically makes the PPPoE
connection to Verizon. The Airport Extreme never disconnects (it
is an option if you desire, but mine is configured for "Always
On").
I frequently phone home from work, coffee shops, when on vacation,
etc... I have Mac mini that I use as a home server which is what
I connect with. Just last week, my Wife was on a business trip
and she used her newer laptop to ssh into her older laptop (left
at home) in order to fetch some files she left behind.
My Mac mini reaches out to my Mom's iMac every night and backups
it up across the internet. Mom is 300 miles away, and also on a
PPPoE Verison DSL connection. Her connection is always up as
well. In her case an older 802.11g White Airport Extreme makes
the PPPoE connection.
So I do not know what you mean when you say "PPPoE won't work with
anything that requires a continuous network presence", because my
Macs and my Mom's Mac are present and accounted for 24/7 and
accessible at the drop of a hat.

Post by Michael Vilain
You might try configuring the other part of your network to recognize
the device. Failing that, does the TimeCapsule work as a directly
attached device to your system rather than as network storage? You
could set it up that way instead--seems a waste since directly attached
Firewire 1GB drives are cheaper.

I do not think he is concerned with the storage portion of Time
Capsule, or at least the original post does not mention any
storage related issues.
He is just asking if the router half of the Time Capsule supports
PPPoE, and it does. Or I should say, it supports connecting the
router half to the Internet Service Provider over PPPoE. The
systems at Home do *NOT* need PPPoE to talk to the Time Capsule,
nor do they need PPPoE to access the internet.
Bob Harris

I'm surprised that your Verizon DSL works that way where you are at.
I'm on Verizon and the PPoE is handled by the DLS modem/router that they
provided (Westell). The Airport is in bridge mode that is hooked to it.

Verizon gave me just a DSL modem (Massachusetts), same one I've
had since May 2003 when I first signed up for DSL. My Mom just
has a Verizon DSL modem as well (Pennsylvania).

Originally, I used the first Apple Graphite Airport base station,
which also included PPPoE.

But generally it does not matter if your Apple Airport Extreme
base station is the router and does the PPPoE or if the Verizon
provided DSL modem/router does the PPPoE connection. If your
Verizon DSL modem/router is not doing the PPPoE setup for you,
maybe you should go poking around the configuration of their
router. Or turn there router into a bridge and make your Airport
Extreme the router again, and have it do the PPPoE.

Bob Harris

[Lloyd Parsons]

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Post by Bob Harris

Post by Michael Vilain

Post by Juan I. Cahis
Does Time Capsule support PPPoE?
My Internet wide band provider gives me PPPoE in an ADSL phone line,
but I have been unable to configure my just bought Time Capsule to use
it. Also, in the manual there is any hint related to this issue. Does
it work?
It is curious, because any D-Link (or similar) wireless router support
PPPoE.
Any hint?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

Just a guess here, but I think PPPoE won't work with anything that
requires a continuous network presence, like your TimeCapsule. IMO,
PPPoE is a particularly lame way to offer network services, layered onto
the older dial-up model. Rather than upgrade their infrastructure to
offera router that just connects a network, you have to "login" to the
network from PPPoE.

I have a 802.11n Airport Extreme (the base on which TimeCapsule is
built). I have Verizon DSL which uses a PPPoE connection and it
is up and running 24/7 month after month. I am rarely
disconnected. The Airport Extreme automatically makes the PPPoE
connection to Verizon. The Airport Extreme never disconnects (it
is an option if you desire, but mine is configured for "Always
On").
I frequently phone home from work, coffee shops, when on vacation,
etc... I have Mac mini that I use as a home server which is what
I connect with. Just last week, my Wife was on a business trip
and she used her newer laptop to ssh into her older laptop (left
at home) in order to fetch some files she left behind.
My Mac mini reaches out to my Mom's iMac every night and backups
it up across the internet. Mom is 300 miles away, and also on a
PPPoE Verison DSL connection. Her connection is always up as
well. In her case an older 802.11g White Airport Extreme makes
the PPPoE connection.
So I do not know what you mean when you say "PPPoE won't work with
anything that requires a continuous network presence", because my
Macs and my Mom's Mac are present and accounted for 24/7 and
accessible at the drop of a hat.

Post by Michael Vilain
You might try configuring the other part of your network to recognize
the device. Failing that, does the TimeCapsule work as a directly
attached device to your system rather than as network storage? You
could set it up that way instead--seems a waste since directly attached
Firewire 1GB drives are cheaper.

I do not think he is concerned with the storage portion of Time
Capsule, or at least the original post does not mention any
storage related issues.
He is just asking if the router half of the Time Capsule supports
PPPoE, and it does. Or I should say, it supports connecting the
router half to the Internet Service Provider over PPPoE. The
systems at Home do *NOT* need PPPoE to talk to the Time Capsule,
nor do they need PPPoE to access the internet.
Bob Harris

I'm surprised that your Verizon DSL works that way where you are at.
I'm on Verizon and the PPoE is handled by the DLS modem/router that they
provided (Westell). The Airport is in bridge mode that is hooked to it.

Verizon gave me just a DSL modem (Massachusetts), same one I've
had since May 2003 when I first signed up for DSL. My Mom just
has a Verizon DSL modem as well (Pennsylvania).
Originally, I used the first Apple Graphite Airport base station,
which also included PPPoE.
But generally it does not matter if your Apple Airport Extreme
base station is the router and does the PPPoE or if the Verizon
provided DSL modem/router does the PPPoE connection. If your
Verizon DSL modem/router is not doing the PPPoE setup for you,
maybe you should go poking around the configuration of their
router. Or turn there router into a bridge and make your Airport
Extreme the router again, and have it do the PPPoE.
Bob Harris

Heh!

Have you heard the term 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'? :)

Mine's working fine and I'm leaving well enough alone. Especially after
fighting up WDS with my new Time Capsule with older Airport Expresses.
I had forgotten what fun that always turns out to be!! :)

[Bob Harris]

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Post by Bob Harris

Post by Michael Vilain

Post by Juan I. Cahis
Does Time Capsule support PPPoE?
My Internet wide band provider gives me PPPoE in an ADSL phone line,
but I have been unable to configure my just bought Time Capsule to use
it. Also, in the manual there is any hint related to this issue. Does
it work?
It is curious, because any D-Link (or similar) wireless router support
PPPoE.
Any hint?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

Just a guess here, but I think PPPoE won't work with anything that
requires a continuous network presence, like your TimeCapsule. IMO,
PPPoE is a particularly lame way to offer network services, layered onto
the older dial-up model. Rather than upgrade their infrastructure to
offera router that just connects a network, you have to "login" to the
network from PPPoE.

I have a 802.11n Airport Extreme (the base on which TimeCapsule is
built). I have Verizon DSL which uses a PPPoE connection and it
is up and running 24/7 month after month. I am rarely
disconnected. The Airport Extreme automatically makes the PPPoE
connection to Verizon. The Airport Extreme never disconnects (it
is an option if you desire, but mine is configured for "Always
On").
I frequently phone home from work, coffee shops, when on vacation,
etc... I have Mac mini that I use as a home server which is what
I connect with. Just last week, my Wife was on a business trip
and she used her newer laptop to ssh into her older laptop (left
at home) in order to fetch some files she left behind.
My Mac mini reaches out to my Mom's iMac every night and backups
it up across the internet. Mom is 300 miles away, and also on a
PPPoE Verison DSL connection. Her connection is always up as
well. In her case an older 802.11g White Airport Extreme makes
the PPPoE connection.
So I do not know what you mean when you say "PPPoE won't work with
anything that requires a continuous network presence", because my
Macs and my Mom's Mac are present and accounted for 24/7 and
accessible at the drop of a hat.

Post by Michael Vilain
You might try configuring the other part of your network to recognize
the device. Failing that, does the TimeCapsule work as a directly
attached device to your system rather than as network storage? You
could set it up that way instead--seems a waste since directly attached
Firewire 1GB drives are cheaper.

I do not think he is concerned with the storage portion of Time
Capsule, or at least the original post does not mention any
storage related issues.
He is just asking if the router half of the Time Capsule supports
PPPoE, and it does. Or I should say, it supports connecting the
router half to the Internet Service Provider over PPPoE. The
systems at Home do *NOT* need PPPoE to talk to the Time Capsule,
nor do they need PPPoE to access the internet.
Bob Harris

I'm surprised that your Verizon DSL works that way where you are at.
I'm on Verizon and the PPoE is handled by the DLS modem/router that they
provided (Westell). The Airport is in bridge mode that is hooked to it.

Verizon gave me just a DSL modem (Massachusetts), same one I've
had since May 2003 when I first signed up for DSL. My Mom just
has a Verizon DSL modem as well (Pennsylvania).
Originally, I used the first Apple Graphite Airport base station,
which also included PPPoE.
But generally it does not matter if your Apple Airport Extreme
base station is the router and does the PPPoE or if the Verizon
provided DSL modem/router does the PPPoE connection. If your
Verizon DSL modem/router is not doing the PPPoE setup for you,
maybe you should go poking around the configuration of their
router. Or turn there router into a bridge and make your Airport
Extreme the router again, and have it do the PPPoE.
Bob Harris

Heh!
Have you heard the term 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'? :)
Mine's working fine and I'm leaving well enough alone. Especially after
fighting up WDS with my new Time Capsule with older Airport Expresses.
I had forgotten what fun that always turns out to be!! :)

"If it ain't broke, BREAK IT!" :-)

[weedhopper]

"Juan I. Cahis" <***@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
Dear friends:

Does Time Capsule support PPPoE?

My Internet wide band provider gives me PPPoE in an ADSL phone line,
but I have been unable to configure my just bought Time Capsule to use
it. Also, in the manual there is any hint related to this issue. Does
it work?

It is curious, because any D-Link (or similar) wireless router support
PPPoE.

Any hint?

Thanks in advance.

Call customer support. These Jackasses will have you running in circles.

[Kevin McMurtrie]

Post by Juan I. Cahis
Does Time Capsule support PPPoE?
My Internet wide band provider gives me PPPoE in an ADSL phone line,
but I have been unable to configure my just bought Time Capsule to use
it. Also, in the manual there is any hint related to this issue. Does
it work?
It is curious, because any D-Link (or similar) wireless router support
PPPoE.
Any hint?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

http://www.apple.com/timecapsule/specs.html

Apple says it does PPoE. If your ISP has some off-specification
dialect, put it behind a DSL modem that does the PPoE for you.